Q: Is Engine Ice Hi-Preformance Coolant "Sillicate Free" and "Phosphate Free?"
A: Yes, Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant is both silicate and phosphate free.
Q: Is it an antifreeze?
A: Yes, Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant is an antifreeze offering freeze protection to -26Fº (26 degrees below zero)
Q: Is it safe for aluminum?
A: Yes, Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant is safe for aluminum and most all metals.
Q: Can you add additives like Water Wetter®?
A: You can add Water Wetter® and it will not cause any problems, but the results will be nominal. Water Wetter® is an excellent product when added to plain water, but when added to antifreeze blends; its effectiveness is reduced significantly.
Q: My manual says to use “ethylene glycol” or their specific brand, can I still use Engine Ice?
A: Typically, this is due to outdated standardization and also because many OEM’s manufacture and sell an ethylene glycol based product. They want you to buy their stuff. You can use Engine Ice.
Q: Will it harm my gaskets or seals?
A: No, Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant will not harm your seals and gaskets. Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant meets or exceeds all AS™ (American Society for Testing and Materials) and SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) Standards and Requirements. These are industry standards in most everything mechanical and engine-based, including motorcycles and cars.
Q: Can you mix Engine Ice with other products or types of coolant and antifreeze?
A: We recommend you never mix ANY TYPE of coolant and antifreeze products. One reason is that propylene glycol and ethylene glycol do not mix well together. Another reason is that just because the base fluid may be similar, other additives and ingredients may not be. Just as you would not mix oils, and for the same reasons, you should not mix coolants and antifreezes.
Q: What do I do in an emergency if I have an issue and need some Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant on the track, trail or side of the road?
A: If you have lost coolant and are in an emergency situation, we recommend you add only water, a good bottled water preferably, and once you get the chance make any necessary repairs, flush the system and replace with 100% Engine Ice for optimum results and protection.
Q: Why are there differences in color, some blue, some purple, is it all the same?
A: Yes, it is all the same product. Our coloring agent is very sensitive and is part of our non-toxic formulation, and there can be variances in color. Makes no difference. There is only ONE Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant.
Q: Sometimes I see "particles" floating in my bottle of Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant, why is that?
A: That is the anti-foam and anti-corrosion properties and is a normal occurrence in our proprietary blending process. Once in the engine, it dissolves and does its job of protecting your engine.
Q: Who are we?
A: We are motocross racers and motorcycle enthusiasts who have been into motocross for more than 25 years. Our team consists of novice, intermediate and pro level racers. With this kind of experience and with our contacts, we went looking for something different and something better. No one had seemed to come up with anything really new, and with all the advances in science and chemistry, we knew there had to be something better out there. At CycleLogic Products, Inc., the manufacturer of Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ our goal has been to provide our friends and fellow racers with the highest quality, most environmentally responsible products that we can possibly make. Through our research, we have found many products and chemical formulations that are completely applicable to racing. Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ is our flagship product. We have other top quality products in the final testing phase, but we couldn't hold back the secret of Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ anymore. We couldn't show up at a race anywhere in the Southeastern U.S. without someone asking us if we had some "stuff." This is why the corporate CycleLogic logo has the phrase "Hi-Performance Secret Fluids" in it. Because our products have been the secret of many racers and National Champions, but now you have the keys to the best kept secret in motocross today.
Q: What is Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™, what makes it different?
A: Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ utilizes a base fluid called Propylene Glycol. This base fluid has been proven to be relatively harmless to plants, animals and the environment, while being an excellent base fluid for an engine coolant. We take this non-toxic base, along with various inhibitors and dilute it with the most pure water possible, Deionized Water. How hazardous is regular antifreeze?
A scant two ounces of any ethylene glycol-type antifreeze can kill a small animal (dog), one teaspoon can be lethal to a cat, and two tablespoons can be hazardous to children resulting in painful internal/intestinal problems possibly leading to coma and even death. Ethylene glycol is also harmful to plant life.
Q: OK, so what. I don't care if it bursts into flames when I take it out. Does it work, is it cooler?
A: If it didn't run cooler, why bother right? Absolutely! Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ has undergone extensive testing in the extreme heat and humidity of Southern Florida . Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant reduces operating temperatures. This is why many champions and race teams have chosen to use Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™
Q: What about performance?
A: Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ uses propylene glycol, which has been proven to eliminate water pump gasket and seal failures. It has also shown in high load, high stress conditions to reduce operating temperatures more than standard coolants. Individual results will vary. On average, most realize a temperature reduction of approximately 15-20Fº.
Q: Well, if it's so good,who uses it?
A: We have a number of professional riders and drivers that trust in Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant™ to help them deliver winnning results. Browse the various applications above, and check out testimonials from the athletes themselves and our featured team members in the sponsorship pages.
On top of the many featured teams and athletes we also have some secret factory teams using out products, but we can't really talk about that...
Q: But does Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ protect an alloy engine as well as regular antifreeze?
A: You bet! Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ offers excellent alloy protection for Motorcycle engines against corrosion, overheating, & freezing. Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ is pre-mixed at a 1:1 ratio with de-ionized (DI) water and has a boiling point of 256oF and a freezing point of -26Fº. Propylene glycol engine coolants will perform superbly under most operating conditions and will not affect factory warranty coverage.
Q: What about protection against corrosion?
A: The Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ formulation has shown outstanding performance in testing that measures its ability to prevent corrosion within all cooling systems, including aluminum, copper, cast iron, steel, magnesium & solder. Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ has shown excellent performance in all of the AS™ D 5216 (Propylene Glycol Base Engine Coolant) tests. Also, Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ meets all the corrosion performance requirements of AS™ D 3306 & AS™ 4985 (the main specifications for premium ethylene glycol antifreeze).
Q: Why is Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ pre-diluted?
A: Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ is pre-mixed with de-ionized water. The process of de-ionizing water eliminates all of the impurities that can do harm to your cooling system. Regardless if you are using tap, bottled, distilled, spring or R/O (reverse osmosis) waters, it can still contain minute particles of iron, magnesium, rust, lime and calcium. Many of these waters also contain chemicals, such as chlorine, fluorides and acids. Want proof? Take two different brands of distilled waters and perform your own taste test. They each taste different don't they? If water were water, why would they be different? It's because of the varying amounts of chemicals and minerals in these waters. These minerals and chemicals are what is the cause the scarring, scaling and mineral build-ups in your cooling system. Many also attribute these minerals and chemicals to water pump seal and gasket failures.
Q: How often do I need to change it and are there any special requirements?
A: Most every coolant product will work best when changed somewhat regularly…at minimum, we’d recommend once a year. For racing applications, we actually recommend twice per year. The cleaner you can keep your cooling system and the fresher you can keep a fluid, the better it will perform. There are no special requirements for using Engine Ice. For any coolant and anytime you are changing coolant, we recommend a simple solution of distilled water and white distilled vinegar, both available at your local grocery store.
- Mix the water/vinegar at 50/50
- Fill system with the solution
- Run engine until warm
- Let cool
- Run clear water through to rinse out vinegar
- Fill with coolant of choice
This is the same as cleaning your coffee maker. The vinegar is acidic enough to clean out and contaminants and residual coolants, yet it won’t harm your seals and gaskets.
Q: What approvals does Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ and propylene glycol have?
A: Propylene Glycol, the base fluid of Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™, meets or exceeds all AS™, SAE, Government and Manufacturers standards. It also has NO statutes or health warnings from the Clean Air Act Amendments (CAAA), CERCLA (Superfund), Superfund Amendments & Reauthorization Act (SARA), Occupational Health & Safety Administration (OSHA), American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH), Federal Health & Safety Administration (FHSA).
Q: What about the water additive product that many racers use?
A: There's nothing wrong with it, sort of. But you have little boil-over protection; no freeze-up protection and you're still mixing it with water that can be harmful to your cooling system. Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ has been proven to meet or exceed the cooling properties of the water additive type products while offering complete cooling system protection against scarring, scaling and mineral build-ups that are damaging to your cooling system.
Q: What about the heat transfer ability of Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant™?
A: Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ has an excellent high heat capacity and thermal conductivity characteristic, which in testing, has proven to exceed the abilities of most (EG) coolants. It provides efficient & effective engine heat transfer.
Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ is a proven product, with added environmental benefits to assure the longevity of your engine, and the world we play in.
Q: SI Units
|Property||Engine Ice @ 90ºC||50% EG/ water @ 90ºC|
|Thermal Conductivity W/m-K||0.34||0.38|
|Specific heat J/kg-K||3497||3378|
Q: CGS Units
|Property||Engine Ice @ 90ºC||50% EG/ water @ 90ºC|
|Density. g/cu cm||0.977||1.017|
|Thermal Conductivity cal-cm/s-cm2-K -°C||9.1x10-3||9.9x10-3|
|Specific heat cal/g-°C||0.92||0.87|
Q: Safety and Toxicity Information
A: Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ is formulated with Propylene Glycol rather than Ethylene Glycol - the base used for traditional antifreeze & coolants. The Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ Propylene Glycol formula is less toxic and thereby safer than Ethylene Glycol antifreeze & coolants. Although Ethylene Glycol-based antifreeze products frequently provide adequate corrosion and cold weather protection; these products are poisonous to humans, animals and plant life. This poisoning danger of traditional antifreeze-coolants is amplified by its sweet-like taste and scent, which children and pets may be attracted to. Household pets and wild animals often consume antifreeze & coolant that has been improperly discarded, spilled or leaked.
Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ has a safer formula to help protect against accidental poisonings. Because of Propylene Glycol's low toxicity, no OSHA upper exposure limits have been set for Propylene Glycol airborne mist in the workplace.
Q: What makes regular antifreeze so dangerous?
A: Ethylene glycol (EG) is the base ingredient of all of the well-known antifreeze brands, it has long been known to be poisonous. When ingested, ethylene glycol converts to oxalic acid, which damages the kidneys and can cause kidney failure and death
Q: What is the rate of EG poisoning in humans?
A: As reported in the Annual Reports of the American Association of Poison Control Centers covering 1991 to 1994, about 3,400 poisonings, which can be directly related to ethylene glycol, occur each year with approximately 20% of these incidents reported among children under six.
Q: How much of a threat is regular antifreeze to animals?
A: In a survey conducted among veterinarians by a national research firm, 95% indicated that they have warned clients about the dangers of antifreeze, 96% of the vets surveyed felt that antifreeze poses a serious risk to pets, and 66% had encountered at least one confirmed or suspected antifreeze poisoning within the prior year. Animal experts estimate that tens of thousands of pets and wild animals die each year from regular ethylene glycol antifreeze poisonings.
Q: What makes Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ safer?
A: Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ is formulated with propylene glycol (PG). As compared to the ethylene glycol used in most other brands, propylene glycol is far less toxic and safer for children, pets, and wildlife. Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant ™ is also phosphate free (phosphates kill the smallest forms of life in the environment in addition to trees and plants). Propylene glycol comes in both an industrial form and a pharmaceutical form and is used in many consumer products including hair conditioners, cosmetics, and many over-the-counter medications.
Q: U.S. Statutes Relating to Propylene Glycol
|US Regulation||Propylene Glycol|
|1990 Clean Air Act Amendments (CAAA)||None|
|CERCLA (Superfund )||None|
|Superfund Amendments & Reauthorization Act (SARA)||None|
|Safe Drinking Water Act (SWDA)||None|
|Occupational Health & Safety Administration (OSHA)||None|
|American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH)||None|
|Federal Health & Safety Administration (FHSA)||None|
Q: International Safety Regulations for Propylene Glycol
8 hour Time Weight Average STEL (Short term exposure limit) 15 minute ceiling
|Bulgaria, Colombia, Jordan, Korea, New Zealand||None|
|United Kingdom||UKhas an 8 hour TWA exposure of 10 for PG as a particulate|
Q: Where can I get the MSDS Data Sheet on Engine Ice?
A: You can download our MSDS Data Sheet by clicking on the following link: Download Engine Ice MSDS Data Sheet (PDF FILE)